Lamar dance

Thanks to Martin for the pic.

Larry Brown: His Bobcats fell to 2-5 -- and 1-2 on their current six-game home stand -- and you can already see the first signs of the patented Larry Brown Discontent (TM). Said Brown: "I have never been with a team where you're trying to figure out whether we drive the ball, whether we post the ball, whether we run pick and roll. It's a real puzzle right now." Larry did, however, take a break from his puzzling to crack on Sean May, who had been on the inactive list since Charlotte's first game due to unsightly fatness (seriously, take a look at his player profile picture). Regarding May's two-minute, 27-second stint -- in which he went 0-for-1 and had an assist -- Brown said: "It took him four seconds to shoot a jump shot." Aw, cheer up, Larry. At least Adam Morrison's shooting a career-high 39 percent! In all seriousness, I think Brown might set a personal record for growing weary and leaving a team this season. And if he does indeed dump the 'Cats, I would like Larry to know that, based on these and other comments he's made over the years, that he'll always have a job at Basketbawful. Only it will be unpaid and he'll have to fetch me my morning coffee. Café latte. Twist of lemon. Sweet 'n' low.

J.R. Smith: He's supposed to be instant offense -- just add water!! -- but I guess somebody forgot to add the water yesterday. Smith finished with 3 points on 1-for-7 shooting (0-for-3 from downtown) and a couple turnovers in 17 minutes. It's the third time in the last four games that he's scored 5 or fewer points. On the season, he's hitting a career-low 36 percent of his shots. But at least his defense has been...never mind.

Emeka Okafor: I sure do love to watching guys underachieve after signing huge offseason contract extensions! Okafor scored 2 points on 1-for-5 shooting and had three of his shots returned to sender. He's almost averaging a double-double (10.1 PPG and 9.9 RPG), which is good I guess. Just not six-year, $72 million good. Man, if only there was someplace I could go to discuss how much I don't like this guy...hey, it's the Emeka Okafor Sucks Forum! Perfect!

Ben Wallace: He had his fourth scoreless game (out of eight) of the season last night. He shot 0-for-3 and had only 4 rebounds. And get this: He's Cleveland's highest paid player this season at $14,500,000. Yes, you read that correctly. He makes more money than teammate LeBron James. [Insert maniacal laughter here.] Oh, and here's a little retroactive WotN: Two games ago, against the Pacers, Big Ben had zero points and zero rebounds in 19 minutes of lack-tion. It becomes increasingly unbelievable that, only two seasons ago, he was the hottest free agent acquisition in the league. Pretty soon, the sound technicians at Quicken Loans Arena are going to be ringing that gong for things like "sitting down to rest aching knees" and "rubbing Icy Hot on back to reduce spasms."

Wally Szczerbiak and Boobie Gibson: They combined to score zero points on 0-for-11 shooting (and 0-for-8 from beyond the arc). But they did contribute 3 rebounds and 6 fouls in almost 50 minutes of composite PT. You've gotta love one-dimensional shooters who can't shoot the ball. It's like having a garbage man who leaves trash instead of picking it up.

Mike Brown, quote machine: After the game, the Cleveland coach showed off his acute perceptiveness by observing that: "LeBron is LeBron." You know, in case you didn't realize who LeBron was. He's LeBron. Got that?

Mo Williams, quote machine: After a successful game against his old team, Williams said: "I had fun...and 'Bron was 'Bron." Has everybody got that? Lebron James was and still is LeBron James. I hope this finally clears up all the confusion.

The Philadelphia 76ers: After watching his team score 80 points and shoot only 38 percent at home -- falling to a very disappointing 2-5 in the process -- Sixers coach Maurice Cheeks said: "I just think our offense is out of sync." Well, thanks for that penetrating insight, Captain Obvious. Here are the raw numbers, in case you keep track of these things: Philly currently ranks 17th in shooting (43.9) and 22nd in scoring (94.9), which isn't what everybody expected when the team broke their giant piggy bank to sign Elton Brand over the summer. I mean, Brand was supposed to hit a high percentage of his shots and create easy buckets for everybody else wasn't he? Yet they scored more and shot better last season without him. This is a sign that, Boston's success last year notwithstanding, you can't always dump an All-Star onto a decent team and expect immediate success.

Kyle Korver: Speaking of shooters who can't shoot, Korver was 1-for-7 from the field last night. I guess he should spend more time practicing and less time signing autographs. Congrats on the successful coat drive though, Kyle.

The Dallas Mavericks: Sure they were without Josh Howard, and yeah they gave it their all last night, but they squandered a great opportunity to hand the Lakers their first loss of the season. (They also wasted a turn-back-the-clock performance by Jerry Stackhouse, who not only lit it up offensively but put the locks on Kobe over the last couple minutes of the game.) Their biggest bust: Letting L.A. erase a 10-point deficit and take a small lead while Kobe Bryant was on the bench.

And, actually, it's like Wild Yams has been saying in the comments: The Lakers are beating people with their bench. I mean, check out all the +/- scores. All the Laker starters (except Andrew Bynum) were down, while all the bench players (except Luke Walton) were up: Trevor Ariza was +16, Lamar Odom and The Machine were +13, and Jordan Farmar was +9. The L.A. Pine Riders scored 36 points, grabbed 18 rebounds, dished 4 assists, stole the ball 7 times and had 2 blocked shots. But even more important than those numbers were the energy and defensive tenacity they brought (particularly Ariza, who's starting to look like as much of a steal as Pau Gasol).

The Mavericks' bench: Outside of Jerry Stackhouse, the Dallas Bench Raiders pulled a collective no-show. Most disappointing, though, was (and has been) the play of Brandon Bass, who was nearly transparent in 11 minutes. He had an assist. That's it. How does that happen? Even Jose Juan Barea had a rebound in his limited PT (four minutes). I had Bass tagged as a breakout player at best and, at worst, one of those energy/intangible players. I have no idea what happened to him.

Jason Kidd: His triple-double (16 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists) was mitigated by his 1-for-7 three-point shooting. Uh, Jas, they're leaving you open out there for a reason. I would like to point out, though, that Kidd is having a mini-renaissance this season. He's shooting a career-high 47 percent and looks much more comfortable running the Mavs' offense than he did last season. In fact, they look kind of lost without him when he's out of the game. In fact, Dallas is starting to develop one of those "Steve Nash and the Suns" sort of deals where the offense grinds to a halt when Kidd is out of the game...and there's no serviceable backup in sight.

Dirk Nowitzki: He didn't just miss a late three-pointer that could have tied the game, he launched a shot that hit nothing but air. And he was wide open. So in case you were wondering, the answer is: Dirk still cannot be trusted in clutch situations.

Dirk Nowitzki versus Pau Gasol: It was a real joy watching these to marshmallows go head-to-head. I've never witnessed a more diverse display of arm flails, pissy looks, pained expressions and verbal flops in all my years of watching basketball. The weird thing was, Gasol was getting more love from the refs. At one point, Gasol used a particularly aggressive verbal flop to draw a delayed whistle even though it looked like Dirk had slapped all ball. Meanwhile, Dirk received only four FTAs despite the fact that the Lakers were roughing him up all night.

Andrew Bynum: He got his numbers -- 11 points, 10 rebounds, 3 blocked shots -- but his post game was "meh" and he had some ugly misses. But worse than that was the seeming lack of fire in his belly. He loped up and down the floor. He let Erick Dampier (12 offensive rebounds) push him around. Watching the game, I kept thinking, "Man, if this kid played with Trevor Ariza's passion, there'd be no stopping him." But I'm not sure Bynum has that passion. And he's already been extended, so you probably can't expect any Contract Year Phenomenon-style play out of him. Remember, he was supposed to be The Story of L.A.'s predicted early season success. Instead, it's been their bench.

Derek Fisher: Last night's 1-for-8 shooting performance is part of a larger trend: Fish is shooting 32 percent from the field and has yet to hit 50 percent of his shots in a game this season. It's taking all the veteran leadership he can muster to keep his spot in the rotation. That and the compromising pictures he has of Phil Jackson modeling a Native American headdress...and nothing else.

Luke Walton: Three minutes, 0-for-1, and a suck differential of +1.

Update! Sasha Vujacic: Taken out by a chest bump. Congrats, Sasha. You've supplanted Pau as the biggest wuss on the team. You must be proud. (Thanks to Jodial and the anonymous poster for the link.)

Joakim Noah: He got his first start of the season and responded with a lackluster 2-point, 8-rebound performance. More distressing than his stat line, though, was the lack of energy he brought to the floor...since, you know, he's supposed to be Chicago's energy guy and all that. I don't know if Noah's out of shape or what -- how is that even possible? -- but he did a lot of loping up and down the floor last night. And Al Horford, his old college teammate, ate his lunch (27 points, 17 rebounds).

Tyrus Thomas: In 21 minutes, he scored 3 points on 1-for-8 shooting and had almost as many turnovers (3) as rebounds (5). He also had more blocks against (3) than blocks (1). He's not shooting 28 percent on the season. Meanwhile, here's how the player the Bulls could have had is doing...

Officiating: It wasn't so much the 36-25 advantage in free throw attempts that got my attention -- the Hawks were the more aggressive team, after all -- but there was one play Zaza Pachulia received a pass and took three long steps without a dribble before laying it in. And there was a ref right there to see it. How do you blow that call? It's not like that was LeBron James or anything. It was Zaza Pachulia!

Basketbawful: Okay. I have to admit. Derrick Rose is looking pretty impressive.

Acie Law IV: Nominated by Bret of Peachtree Hoops: "-17 in just over 8 minutes of playing time, 0-1 FGA (that shot was blocked) and a personal foul. It's not his fault that Woodson too often last year played him alongside Tyronn Lue and this year alongside Flip Murray rather than letting him run pick-and-roll with the second unit but he's been impressively ineffective thus far." Hm, 1.5 PPG on 23 percent shooting and 1.5 RPG over six games. I'd say "ineffective" is being pretty generous.

Othello Hunter: He had a one trillion against the Bulls.

Mario West: His 14-second stint earned Mario his first Mario of the season. And there was much rejoicing.

Mike D'Antoni: He still can't figure out a way to stop Tim Duncan or score against the Spurs. Last night, his team scored 80 points and shot only 38 percent. I can only hope that, for D'Antoni's sake, that money does indeed buy happiness. I wouldn't know myself.

Kurt Thomas: He played almost 10 minutes and didn't grab a single rebound. Did he shrink? It's the second time this season he failed to snare a board.

Matt Bonner: He managed a 28-second Mario against the Knicks. Which, to be honest, was 28 more seconds than I thought he'd get.

The Sacramento Kings: They pressed the fourth quarter self-destruct button last night, thus squandering an early 15-point lead and missing out on the chance to reach .500 for the first time since December 4, 2006. As Reggie Theuss screamed and fumed on the sidelines, the Kings committed 5 turnovers in four minutes, which allowed the Pistons to go on a 12-6 run to ice the game. Theuss -- who yelled "NO!" during one doomed possession -- said: "None of [the turnovers] were caused by the other team. [It was] just carelessness on our part. Our guys -- give them credit -- I really felt like they outplayed (Detroit) for 42 minutes." Sadly, NBA games are still 48-minute affairs. Theuss was also upset about the free throw disparity. "Thirty-six free throws to our 17 is ridiculous. Their stars got the calls down the stretch." Mmmm. Sour grapes.

Brad Miller: Prepare to throw up in your mouth a little: Brad scored 7 points on 16 shot attempts and have five of his shots blocked. Uh, he's still seven feet tall, right? Was he shooting the ball while sitting down or something? Said Miller: "That was one of the worst games I've had since high school, college, pros, summer league...[while playing] PlayStation, [Nintendo] Wii, you name it." Well, at least he's self-aware.

Jason Maxiell: Am I missing something? I figured he was due for some extended PT and an expanded role after 'Tony McDyess got shipped to Denver. But he's played 14, 17 and 11 minutes since the trade, scoring zero, 2 and 3 points on 1-for-9 shooting. He's also snatched only 7 rebounds in those three games. Is he hurt? Dying of some rare Mediterranean disease? What happened?

Rasheed Wallace: Last night's 7-point, 7-rebound, 3-for-8 shooting performance is indicative of the 2008-09 'Sheed thus far. He's currently averaging only 11.4 PPG on a career-low 39 percent shooting. In a contract year.

Kevin McHale: It looks like Kevin Love (9.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 1.4 APG) is going to be a solid (if unspectacular) pro. But O.J. Mayo (21 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 2.4 APG) is already an awesome pro. So, you know, wrong again, Kevin. But at least you got Antoine Walker off the payroll. So you've got that going for you.

Mark Madsen: Two minutes, 1 foul, suck differential of +1.

Big, flapping vaginas: Al Harrington missed his third straight game with a strained lower back and Corey Maggette sat out his fourth consecutive game wtih a strained left hamstring. Once again: Money well spent, Chris Mullin. Money well spent.

Kobe Bryant: He used the last of the toilet paper and didn't replace the roll.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...
possible egoectomy by vujacic by ariza?

Anonymous Anonymous said...
... I'm pretty sure Kobe never puts the seat down for his wife either. And his aim is terrible.

It was kinda weird watching the Hawks vs Bulls game highlights on - one would have thought the bulls dominated the Hawks as all 85% of what was shown featured Bulls baskets. Maybe it was just that the Bulls had flashier baskets but still. Beauty ahead of...ugh what?

Blogger Wild Yams said...
Ariza would have been a huge steal for the Lakers last year even if he'd gotten hurt right away and hadn't been re-signed this last summer just because that trade allowed the Lakers to dump Brian Cook's bad contract and bad attitude on an unsuspecting Magic team that created a logjam at the SF position last year by signing Rashard Lewis for a bazillion dollars, and who thought they needed more outside shooters. Trevor Ariza was looking really impressive last year for the Lakers as well though, until he broke his foot, and his defensive presence was definitely missed in the Finals against Paul Pierce. His being back in the lineup this year along with Andrew Bynum shows just how much defense the Lakers were missing a year ago and what a difference those two players make on the defensive end of the floor.

Speaking of Bynum, he definitely has not shown the aggressive explosiveness on offense that he displayed a year ago, but Phil Jackson has said that all he wants out of Bynum this year is 10 boards and 3 blocks a game. Thus far he's averaging 9.5 ppg, 9 rpg and 2.83 bpg (2nd in the league, despite playing only 28 mpg), so he's basically filling the role Phil wanted him to play. I suspect as the season goes on he'll get more of his offensive explosion and confidence in his knee back. Keep in mind, he's only played 6 regular season games since mid January so it may take some time.

I gotta say, I think it's wrong to put the Mavericks as a team in today's WOTN. Yeah, they lost, but they played a really fierce game. Dirk deserves to be on this list though, cause he was pretty thoroughly outplayed by Gasol, but the rest of the team really stepped up (except for the bench, outside of Stack, as you pointed out). But like you said I've been saying, the Lakers are tough to beat this year just because they keep coming at teams for 48 straight minutes because their 2nd unit (Bynum/Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Vujacic & Farmar) is better that many starting units. As tough fought as that game was last night, nobody on the Lakers played more than 36 minutes, and only 2 people played more than 30 minutes. That no doubt will pay dividends for the Lakers tonight in New Orleans.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And we'll start the ass kissing! [points at Larry Brown]

And Brad Miller is wrong. As a Boilermaker, I can assure you he's had worse games.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
How could you leave this out? In the Minnesota-Golden State game last night, Minnesota took THIRTY more shots than the Warriors, 110-80, and they still failed to win the game. The FT discrepancy in favor of Golden State (37-14) makes up for this slightly, but there is no excuse to take 30 more shots and ever lose a basketball game.

Blogger BJ said...
Re Wild Yams -- seconded. And why is it, even though he takes his fair share of crapshots Dirk has to flop to get the foul? Otherwise the refs kind of look through him.

Oh well, that was the only time the Lakers do Dallas; the Faker-fans can crawl back under their rocks now.

And he forgets to flush.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I love the Machine, but his chest bump with Ariza last night surely has to make the Worsties;

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm pretty sure Kyle Korver is never going to thrive in Utah. He doesn't get enough touches consistently to find that rhythm.

On another note, does anyone think that the Hawks can keep this up? Is there anything fundamentally different in terms of the roster from last year? The year before? Is horford the big change? Did Josh Smith and Zaza forge an uneasy alliance? I'm curious to hear thoughts.

Oh yeah, Yao is absolutely painful to watch. I mean he looks like he is in physical pain lumbering up and down the court. I can barely watch him anymore.

Blogger Alex said...
Didn't Stephen King write a book about Larry Brown? Quitter's, Inc.?

Something else awesomely bad: NBA.COM's tagline: "The Game Happens Here." Thanks! I thought it happened in the NHL!

Blogger Bret LaGree said...
I had to double-check this this morning, but the official scorer credited Mike Bibby for an assist on Joe Johnson's layup with 5:49 left in 3rd Quarter.

Only problem with that is that Al Horford made that lovely pass to Johnson while Mike Bibby was standing out of bounds about 15 feet away, having attempted to keep the ball inbounds seconds earlier.

How do you mix up Bibby and Horford?

And how often does this happen?

Larry Brown loves coaching teams with at least one fat dude on the roster...Coleman(76ers), Curry(Knicks), now May (Bobcats). Sir Mixalot can envy LB for this track record

Blogger Basketbawful said...
anonymous #1 -- Updated.

ak dave -- Yup. He leaves splashes on the seat.

zonker -- Even the NBA is slow in realizing the Hawks might actually me sort of for real this year...

Yams -- Good point. Man, I read somewhere that Cook was complaining about PT. My buddy Craig who runs The Association blog wrote me about it and said, "Doesn't he know he's Brian Cook?" Apparently, he doesn't.

Bynum does seem tentative, and I'm sure it has something to do with the knee...but still. When I see Ariza going crazy and giving 100 percent, all-out effort, it's hard not to compare it to Bynum, whom I haven't seen sprint downcourt yet this season.

The Mavs played hard, true, but I really felt like they let down against the Lakers second unit. They got careless with the ball, took some questionable shots. I realize that a lot of teams tend to pull back on the throttle when the subs come in, but they should realize that L.A.'s subs are no joke. Coughing up that 10-point lead when Kobe was on the bench was borderline unforgivable. You could see they just weren't as sharp as they should have been. IMHO, anyway.

baddave -- Thank you for getting the Boondock Saints refrence.

anonymous #2 -- Hm. You have a point...

BJ -- I definitely thought Dirk was getting jipped on calls. It was sad, too, because at one point Dirk got smack-sandwiched between Gasol and Odom and missed a jumper, then they called him for a touch foul on Gasol on the other end. In fact, Gasol got two ticky-tack and-ones while Dirk couldn't get a call to save his life.

jodial -- Updated.

sun devil -- Re: The Hawks. One of the biggest differences is that Bibby has been fully integrated into the offense and he's playing great. (In fact, I was reminded last night of just how good he used to be.) The young guys are developing, team chemistry is great, and they're giving total effort every night.

alex athans -- Yeeeah. The NBA kinda whiffed on that one.

bret lagree -- I guess it depends. I'm white, but I've been asked whether I was the brother of one of my good friends who is black and whether I'm the TWIN [!!] of another friend who's Asian and almost a foot shorter than me. So, you know, I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.

zonker -- Wait, who was the fat guy on the Pistons?

Blogger Wild Yams said...
Mr. Bawful, we're probably just going to disagree about Bynum, but even though he's not showing tons of effort on the offensive end of the floor, he really is being extremely productive on the defensive end. In addition to averaging the 2nd most blocks in the league this year (on relatively short minutes), he's definitely a game changer in the lane. Check out what Kevin Pelton from Basketball Prospectus had to say about him the other day:

The other major reason is a big one literally--Bynum. Even if he did not possess a budding post-up game, Bynum would still be a very valuable player because of his defensive ability. Charting reveals just how much impact Bynum had against the Nuggets, forcing five-and-a-half misses without surrendering a single score. Add that to the turnovers Bynum forced and he dominated the game defensively. Bynum's quickness allows him to help and play the role of stopper while being able to recover and contest a shot attempt by a player cutting from the weak side... Overall, Bynum's defensive value is evident in the early numbers--according to, the Lakers' Defensive Rating has been 12.2 points better per 100 possessions with Bynum on the floor.

I think it's just a reality with this Laker team that people have to sacrifice some areas of their individual game to allow for all the depth and versatility that they have. Odom is having to come off the bench, Walton is having to live with only getting 3 minutes of PT a game, and Bynum is having to focus almost entirely on defense while playing fewer than 30 minutes per game.

While it would be nice to see him running down court in transition, the Lakers have Gasol instead running the floor and setting up in the low post for early offense, while Bynum crashes the defensive glass. Also, it has to be easier for Ariza to race around when he weighs about 100 pounds lighter than Bynum and doesn't have to run end line to end line the way Bynum does.

Bynum got off to a similarly slow start last year before really beginning to shine in mid December, and that may be the case this year too. I think it's too early to say too much about his game yet, being only 6 games into his return from injury. The Lakers have him essentially playing the same role that Kendrick Perkins plays on the Celtics, and thus far he's doing a better job of it than Perk is. He's not scoring 15+ a game, but the Lakers really don't need that out of him as long as he keeps getting them 10 boards and 3 blocks a game.

Back to the Mavs though, I still don't think you can blame their bench too much for not being able to keep up with the Laker bench. It's been the MO of the Lakers thus far this year to really blow games open or trim a deficit with Kobe (and the other starters) on the bench just because the Laker subs are so good. This is the Lakers' real strength. Not Kobe, not Gasol, not the "twin towers" - it's the depth. Even if the other team's stars play well, it's going to be tough for their whole roster to compete with the quality of players the Lakers put on the floor for the entire game.

Blogger Nate Jones said...
I agree with Yams on Bynum. Bynum is just still not there yet with his knee. If you saw his explosiveness last season, you'd know what I'm talking about. Guy dunk everything. I think he'll start to come around again in Dec/Jan

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't have a link to this, but my nominee for WOTN has to be the local KCAL announcers and their lovefest with Jack in the Box. Is there anything more excruciating than watching James Worthy eat and critique a Jack in the Box teriyaki bowl for 5 minutes while waiting for the game to start?

He also said something to the effect of "I like to go there after midnight, pick up some of those chicken strips? MmmmmMMmmmm...

Blogger Barry said...
I don't know who this Kobe Bryant guy is, but he certainly doesn't come across as the nicest of guys.

Suppose that is how his schoolmates signed his yearbook?

"LeBron..well, he's LeBron"

"What can I say, he's LeBron"

"It was a crazy and fun time...and 'Bron was 'Bron"

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was checking the Cavs/Bucks box score and I just couldn't believe how was it possible for Wallace, Gibson and Szczerbiak combine for 0-14 FG, 0-8 3pt, 0-2 FT, 7 rebs, 1 ast, 3 stl, 2 blk and 7 fouls on almost 68 mins of PT. Sixty eight freaking minutes! That's 28 percent of your total PT! Gotta be some kinda negative record. Oh, wait, they won !? Well, I guess it was just because "LeBron was Lebron".

Blogger Wang McMuffin said...
LeBron James is actually Chuck Johnson, a car salesman from Wichita, Kansas.

Blogger Felicia said...
Best of the night? While reading your rip on Brad Miller's massive suckiness, my boyfriend responds, "That's funny, I was thinking last night he's actually playing better than I expected him to..."

Added Bonus? Brad Miller got a shot blocked WHILE I was writing this.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hope the Suns-Rockets refs make the worst-of tomorrow, because this is atrocious. Nash got a tech for getting shoved down in a fight. Barnes got ejected because the refs blew a foul call and Alston took things into his own hands.

Credit Houston for hitting shots, but the refs sure seem to be making defense easy for them and difficult for the Suns.

And I was about to post this...but I just saw a Houston player undercut a Sun with no foul called. It would have been a great tackle in the NFL, but I thought I was watching the NBA. It's faaaaaaaaantastic.

Blogger Clifton said...
Maybe they can shorten it even more and just say "LeBron is."

Anyway, after starting 6-2, Raja Bell has not stopped whining about his perceived lack of offensive chances. In the East Valley Tribune: “Honestly, we are a running team. That’s what we’re built to do,” Bell said. “You can see we are confused about what we’re doing offensively, whether we want to run it or try to slow it down. And when there is uncertainty, there are turnovers.”

He followed up those comments with the following performance tonight vs. Houston: 23 min, 0-6 FG (includes 0-2 from 3), no FT attempts, 3 rebs, 0 everything else, 0 points. Let me clear up that 'confusion' for you: that ball you're holding? It goes THROUGH the hoop.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
In the continuing theme of obvious statements re: LeBron, I met someone who played against him in high school. He said 'Bron was "really good" and "we got beat." Wow, thanks!

Ok, Elden Campbell was just huge. Maybe that's why the won the title that season.