If some of you wonder what goes through the mind / keyboard of Bawful on a given day during the playoffs, I thought this might be a treat - a completely unfiltered Skype between him and myself about Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and other related subject matter.
Remember, this is unedited - no removal of statements I thought might upset or offend anyone - so it should be taken as such. It's just two fans of a particular team having a chat, and I think there's a lot of good stuff here. Enjoy, and go Celts.
-ET
Bawful: Well...that was an exciting game.
Evil Ted: too exciting...and the officiating is now just...confusing
Bawful: How so?
Evil Ted: traveling call on KG....double foul on KG and LeBron...Pierce's and LeBron's 6th fouls...no call on D Wade's raping pierce...it's like the entire game was make-up calls from one end to the other...no wonder Crawford was involved
Bawful: Yeah.
Bawful: The travel on KG was bullshit. Total. And the reviews showed it. And besides...they never call the foot shuffle around the three-point arc.
Bawful: The 6th fouls were rather mystifying, if only because the rest of the game was so physical.
Bawful: It seems like any time somebody falls down, the refs feel they HAVE to call something.
Evil Ted: well, they have to call SOMETHING ...took the words out of my mouth
Bawful: The raping of Pierce was also bullshit. A full-on body block.
Bawful: That game was a clinic on how NOT to officiate.
Evil Ted: yeah. there were a few occasional good gutsy calls...kg holding lebron's arm to keep him from blocking rondo's layup was more than legit
Evil Ted: and wade gets an open look to end it...lucky miss...but it feels now like 2-2 is about right
Bawful: Yeah.
Bawful: Although, you know, if Rondo had gotten the call he deserved in OT in Game 2, when Wade whacked him on the head, it would be 3-1 C's.
Bawful: I think, if anything, the officiating has gone the Heat's way in every game, even if only a little.
Bawful: What about Rondo calling out the Heat at halftime?
Evil Ted: I would say the C's are getting it more favorably at home, but only slightly...Rondo is just poking the bear...everybody's been annoyed with officials...his point was that they were doing it in transition, giving the Celtics fast break points, which was the question: "How were you scoring on them"...essentially...rondo clearly has no fear...
Evil Ted: and while he's had some slow segments of games, I think it's time to put away the "trade rondo" talk for good.
Bawful: Yeah. He was poking the bear...even if it's true.
Bawful: If the Celtics could get Deron Williams and flip Rondo for a major piece or two, I'd still do it.
Bawful: But that's about the only way I'd do it.
Evil Ted: Rondo's proven enough to me at this point.
Bawful: I'm not saying he hasn't proven his greatness...but you need to take a big picture view and not just look at the playoffs. He goes through long stretches of the regular season when he's in a funk and submits occasional inexplicable stink bombs where he clearly doesn't give a shit.
Bawful: I still worry about him.
Bawful: His attitude is just...weird.
Bawful: He's just an odd one.
Bawful: Take Game 2...he was aggressive with his jumpers.
Bawful: Last night, he was back to not wanting to even consider taking one.
Bawful: Which, again, allowed the Heat D to do a lot of sagging off.
Evil Ted: Actually, I think they played him tighter last night. He was not getting 12-15 foot open looks...he takes what the D gives. His decision making is hard to argue with...in fact Spo said it's tough to plan for him because he plays so different from game to game. Of course, Spo can't coach his way out of a paper bag, but still
Bawful: I dunno. I think Rondo is the NBA equivalent of the crazy girlfriend. When she's giving you wild sex, you think everything is great. When Rondo is playing great, all the other stuff feels okay...but it will come back to bite the team in the ass at some point. Which is the only reason the "trade Rondo" rumors have never gone away.
Bawful: But, even then, as I said, I think that there are very select circumstances in which Rondo would be dealt.
Bawful: And I can't see Deron signing in Boston.
Bawful: So...
Bawful: Rondo ain't going anywhere.
Evil Ted: which is fine. he's good enough to build around
Bawful: I guess we'll find out, huh?
Bawful: Good to see Ray hitting agian.
Evil Ted: indeed
Bawful: Bosh is supposed to come back for Game 5.
Evil Ted: to either make a positive difference, or ruin the chemistry
Evil Ted: or play at 75%...we'll see
Bawful: Yep.
Bawful: Celts gotta get Game 5 if they wanna win the series.
Bawful: By the way, although I agree Garnett pulled LeBron's arm on that Rondo drive, LeBron was also getting his arm under Garnett's, which is supposed to be a foul. I'm just sayin'.
Evil Ted: maybe...anything can happen in game7's, and I feel comfortable with them at home...they should stilll, however, play like it's a game 7...I can't defend KG's hand yank there. can't do it...without that, it's a no-call
Bawful: I never said KG's yank wasn't a foul...only that LeBron fouled him first and it wasn't called.
Bawful: Defenders aren't allowed to push their arms up under the offensive player's arms. LeBron was clearly doing that...otherwise KG wouldn't have had anything to grab onto.
Bawful: The refs called the double foul to keep the rough play from happening...then, when it didn't, KG got tagged.
Bawful: Whatever, though. A lot of calls were head-scratchers.
Bawful: But I am fucking sick and tired of seeing Heat players go flying at the slightest contact. They are the worst team in the league at taking dives.
Bawful: Every fucking time. Every one of them does it.
Bawful: Chalmers, Battier, Wade, LeBron, Haslem, etc.
Bawful: Bump 'em, and they're gonna take a dive.
Evil Ted: I will agree...but will take one name off that list. James, I think, is the only player who plays like a growed man...my heat hate is squarely focused on Wade. Can't stand that whining, leg-flailing dork.
Bawful: Yeah. Wade is a complete and total bitch-ass bitch. I used to like him...now I cannot stand him.
Evil Ted: LeBron, on the other hand, I'm finding less hateable...he just seems businesslike out there more than any other heat player...not really a good leader, or clutch performer, but plays like a man.
Bawful: I dunno. I still don't like him. Comments like "I don't foul out" when he was bitching about the calls made against him...the fact that he (in case you hadn't heard) doesn't come out of the tunnel until right before gametime (he even skips the player intros).
Bawful: When he taunted KG.
Evil Ted: agreed, but that stuff is enhanced by his making "the decision" and being on the heat. on the whole, I find him more mature and classy than the rest of the heat team.
Bawful: I'm still not sold. But then, I don't need to be.
Bawful: Just rootin' for the C's.
Evil Ted: same here
Bawful: If they do beat the Heat...man...this squad will officially be competing with Larry's teams in my heart.
Evil Ted: don't get ahead of yourself...and the thunder and spurs are both scary match ups
Bawful: I wasn't saying that meant they'd win the title...only that their fight and heart has moved me.
Bawful: Just in terms of affection.
Bawful: They may have won only the one title, but their heart and attitude has gotten to me.
Evil Ted: They've been gritty for years...with each passing year as they get older, it's more impressive...
Bawful: KG's renaissance has been particularly impressive.
Evil Ted: yes...he's playing inspired ball...
Bawful: And his presence / absence has a profound effect.
Bawful: They've been tracking it at ESPN.com.
Bawful: When KG is in, the C's are huge on teh + side...but way in the - when he sits.
Evil Ted: yeah...the team is completely different with him in the middle. doc still limits his minutes to keep him effective.
Bawful: Yeah. He has to. But I cringe every time KG goes to the bench...cuz that's when teams make their runs.
Evil Ted: yup. tis what it is.
Evil Ted: they have what they have. bench play and rebounding are the critical elements to offset that
Bawful: Bench came up big last night.
Bawful: Although, god damn, I wish Pietrus could hit a shot.
Bawful: He had two GINORMOUS offensive boards in OT though.
Evil Ted: daniels is making use of himself. Pietrus shooting has been abysmal, but the defense and boards have been making him a nice X factor.
Bawful: For the record, the 2008 team would destroy any team currently in the playoffs.
Evil Ted: if this were 4 years ago, that would be relevant ;)
Bawful: Yeah, yeah. ;)
Evil Ted: The '86 team would DESTROY these teams...see?
Bawful: I'm just saying...as the years pass, I'm realizing how truly special that '08 squad really was.
Evil Ted: and the '10...who shoulda won
Bawful: Yeah. :(
Bawful: I'll always remember the Perkins injury...and the 28 offensive boards the Lakers got in Game 7.
Evil Ted: that sucked...and don't forget, it was Kobe who stuck his leg out to make that happen.
Bawful: I won't forget that, either.
Editor's note: It is ET's misguided belief that Kobe Bryant made an intentional leg flail that caused Kendrick Perkins to go down in game 6 of the 2010 NBA Finals. There is absolutely, positively zero proof of this assertion, nor will there ever be until after a thorough autopsy of Kobe Bryant's brain, which ET plans to request (and potentially pay for) upon Kobe's passing.
This is the most brutal postseason for a Spurs fan since the 2006 series vs the Mavs.
There's no easy solution for the refs, but it's really making these games turn on the foul calls.
And I suppose they feel they must be blowing the whistle because someone is falling down, for whatever reason.
On substance: So freakin discouraged about officiating. The ECF has been atrocious, and I really get the feeling that officials are deciding each game. What a crock of shit. I think I'll just go to bed early tonight top get a good sleep for a change. I can watch the recorded last 5 minutes in the morning.
As far as officiating: Some of you know that I'm neither a Celtics or Heat fan. I grew up in downstate Illinois near STL, so my only fanhood was the Bulls earlier, and the Sonics in the 90s when I lived there. Thanks to skank ho Clay Bennett I have no team now. I consider the home cooking to have been extreme in Miami (scorching, to abuse those already overused Heat puns), and medium in Boston. This isn't surprising given the degree that a) the NBA worships superstars, and b) the degree to which LeBron and Wade have always sucked up to officials. The fact is that Celtics stars not named Pierce and Allen don't bother to kiss ref ass. Advantage Heat.
When does Bosh return? How rusty is he? Time off doesn't necessarily cause rust, but rest core muscle injuries causes lots of it, because it's hard to do just about anything without using your core. If Bosh looks good right away, the Celtics have no chance. If he looks rusty, poor efficiency may actually HURT Miami. If I were the Celtics I'd take it right at him frequently on offense, and see if they can psych his ass out and maybe foul him out because he's rusty. But a healthy Bosh doing well greatly increases Miami balance, which is what has hurt them since Indiana.
Floppers: Gotta say Miami does more of it. Wade especially, but also LeBron does it too (let's not forget the ridiculous Chandler foul in Round 1, plus acting like he was hammered out of bounds. Both caught red-handed on replay and mocked by the press). LeBron flops differently than Wade, but flop he does.
Plus, the officials all want to slurp those guys. That said, Pierce is also a huge flopper, maybe the biggest in the league. But single-handedly he cannot outweigh LeBron and Wade, plus Chalmers likes to dive a lot, and reminders me of early Wade until he trashed his shoulder. Advantage Heat.
Battier: flops no more or less than most NBA players (which is a lot these days), but damn that dude can seriously draw charges. hats off to him. He's making a big difference in the playoffs and is shutting up the people who criticize him. As usual his contributions aren't that evident in the box score, but that is the story of his career, and other guys like him. He's got my respect even though he's a Dookie.
Agreed on KG and +/-: his is one of the biggest player impacts I've ever seen in a series. The box doesn't show it, but he IS the Celtics this year. They don't win a single game against Miami without him playing each game like he's 5 years younger. Absolutely astonishing. I still think he's a dick, but he's achieved god-like status in my mind for this. Let's remember what a dick Jordan was, but how much we all admired his game.
You guys really use emoticons in verbal conversations? ;)
And yeah, Kobe is always the biggest dick of all.
PS I'm ignoring you homers. You're too biased. :P
HEat played with no passion, no will and with no team effort. They can't build one with JAmes and Wade being so cocky and bitchy, reffearing to the james intro each game.
If some of you played some pro sports, you know that most of the time flashy players ruin team chemistry, there a few who stay down on earth and treat teammates equally and are humble enough to be reliable on and off the court, see rose/durant etc
Spo can't coach at this level, i realized it after this game, he isn't prepared for the finals. Doc is a masterpiece. I used to hate celtics but just for pierce crying, kg dickery and so forth, no i start to understand them and i am aware people have bad habits or problems with their behavior, now i appreciate their heart and effort, their will to succeed, which besides okc/spurs was absent this current nba season.
Loved the post and your conversation, i really think you should have let Bawful ramble a bit more, i saw more potential in him :)
"Good Job, Good Effort"
But I'm glad you didn't do a video call and upload it. I'd much rather read that conversation than watch you guys as if you are online sex-chat whores. I've missed you guys recently, so thanks.
I'm going to go out on a limb here though. First, the league wants a game 7. David Stern wet dream. Miami WILL win game 6 in Boston. Second, Miami will have another game to rediscover its relationship to Bosh. Though it pains me greatly to say it, I think the Heat will win this series. :(
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop
... in the Philippines.
http://teampilipinas.info/2012/06/nba-veteran-west-to-take-over-oguchis.html
"Bawful: KG's renaissance has been particularly impressive.
Evil Ted: yes...he's playing inspired ball...
Bawful: And his presence / absence has a profound effect.
Bawful: They've been tracking it at ESPN.com.
Bawful: When KG is in, the C's are huge on teh + side...but way in the - when he sits.
Evil Ted: yeah...the team is completely different with him in the middle. doc still limits his minutes to keep him effective."
I've been hearing this from friends and the media over the past week, and I think it's ludicrous. Yes, KG is playing very well, but everyone is forgetting that Bosh isn't playing. That's not some small, nearly insignificant reason KG is playing so well; we're talking about the ONLY competent (and by competent I mean 7 time allstar) big man on the entire Heat roster. KG is being guarded by Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem. It's easy to ascribe someone such lofty attributes when their opposing team matchups are so favorable.
That is all.
Please explain.
Bawful, you know my hatred for Kobe. It is only surpassed by one other player, Pierce, and its because he is the worst flopper ever. Cannot stand to watch him play basketball, and hope to hell I don't have to see him play in the Finals.
I think Bosh's impact has been understated because the Heat were able to get by the Pacers essentially with output from 2 players. Boston has veteran savvy, good matchups and a great coach so they've been able to exploit the weaknesses that the Heat currently have.
Now I can actually watch a little basketball without vomiting.
I fucking hate OKC and Laker fans but I don't actually despise people like Kevin Durant and Pau Gasol.
For the record he couldn't have gone to Chicago. Salary cap would have fucking exploded so badly that if he went to Chicago a few players for the Bulls would have left, like probably Rose after last season if they didn't win the championship.
And far better than that bitch-ass bitch Dwayne Wade. That's right! I said it...
ET
start posting stuff instead. awful fucks.
Wade is a great player but there's only 1 person on the Heat that has ever even won an MVP award, let alone 3. Lebron is more than capable of playing like this all the time, again Wade just needs to come to terms with his career PPG going way the hell down if he wants to win.
As for teh Wade-Pierce thing, yes, they are both epic floppers. There is a difference though. Most of Pierce's are suckering an opposing player into fouling him. Most of Wade's are throwing himself into traffic or just throwing himself onto the floor. I see a difference even if you don't.
thanks raza for trying to keep it up.
thanks mattbawful for all the previous great work.
Good riddance to that core. Rondo is a petulant child. I hope he enjoys running pick and pop with Brandon Bass.
If the Celtics won game 7 there'd be 5 new articles up by now.
Celtics homers™
Only thing I could think of is find more peeps like Raza to donate their time.
:( actually... someone post what they think would be a funny cartoon of bawful and I'll draw the balls off it. or not. sigh........
Preposterous!
Preposterous!
Preposterous!
He [LeBron] needs help. If he loses again in a few games, let's see another Decision!
It's been amazing watching all the sports talking-heads and radio idiots completely make fools of themselves over "Did you stop beating your wife?". I mean, really - Stern was simply saying that what Rome asked was a Loaded Question. Nothing more.
It's even in Wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
What does that say about me?! :)
How about those Heat - did everything they could to let OKC back in the game but to no avail, they still managed to win. That Wade turnover was bawful - especially as it led to the Durant 3. Ouch.
Great to see Bosh back in the starting lineup with a nice double double.
Shame that OKC couldn't steal this one, I really though that Miami were going to choke.
I know what you mean. I used to get excited about new posts, but now I'm just refreshing for new comments. Sometimes I'm even excited about just getting my own new comment posted. Haha.
Regarding the game last night, that was a great game. Officiating was pretty decent too, for the most part. I'm not so sure if Heat "did everything they could to let OKC back in the game." I was actually impressed that Heat came up clutch with some key rebounds and LeBron making the tough bank shot + all FTs. Other than Wade's turnover, I don't think there was much else Heat could've done differently when Thunder was trying to make the comeback. But, wow, when Durant hit that 3, I thought Thunder was going to win for sure. King Crab's clutch FTs were a little unexpected. I do feel like he's a little different ever since Boston series elimination game 6. I hope the rest of Finals are going to be good as this game.
P.S. I never knew how athletic Westbrook was. I mean, I knew, but he's REALLY athletic. The way he jumps from almost FT line and just glides through the air for a lay-up reminds me of a smaller version of Drexler.
Here's hoping last night's result serves as a wake-up call to the Thunder. If it is, they may take more than one in Miami -- but not all three, I hope, as I want to see at least one more played in OKC, which right now has the best home court atmosphere in the league. Miami's continues to be the most annoying, all because of that damn announcer.
please get relevant bawful.
there's only 2 active players on your banner.
There has not been a single post since the Heat beat the Celtics in the east. We're in game 3 of the finals and basketbawful has nothing to say what-so-ever because the bloggers are still butt hurt that the team they hate the most beat the team they love the most.
Don't give me that "We're busy" bullshit, you post regularly on facebook, YOU ARE NOT BUSY. And even if you are a bit busy, you run a popular basketball blog site... AND IT'S THE NBA FINALS.
I know you are all contemplating suicide because your precious C's got beat by the team you unexplicably hate more than anything on this planet. But suicide/depression or not, you've got a job to do, man up bitches, if you need me I'll be at http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/.
Hope things work out and you guys can get back to business next season, this really was a great blog!
www.fuckyeahnba.com
It's not nearly as funny or as well written as this blog used to be, but it has a ton of content and is written with a real enthusiasm for the game.