"Our goal for this period of time is to get Greg as fit as possible without having any kind of impact on his knee," explains Blazers trainer Jay Jensen. "He has no swelling or pain, and the knee looks normal. But we're still minimizing his running and pounding on the court."I am by no means a professional rehabilitation expert or anything, and I can understand why they want to minimize any impact on Greg's knee, but shouldn't they be seriously concentrating on exercises that strengthen the knee itself rather than just "the rest of the lower body"? I seem to remember reading that Amare Stoudemire, who was pretty successful in coming back from his microfracture surgery, did a lot of knee-specific strengthening exercises during his rehab.
To achieve their goals, Jensen and strength coach Bob Medina are putting Oden through at least an hour of cardio per day, whether it be on the elliptical machine, bike, or uphill walking drills.
For lower-body workouts, Oden stays away from anything that puts direct pressure on the knee, such as lunges, squats, and leg extensions. Instead, he focuses on exercises that strengthen the rest of his lower body, such as hamstring curls, calf raises, and balance drills for his quad [Note: The magazine represents these drills by showing a picture of him reaching down for a cone]. One area in which Oden's been working consistently throughout the year has been his upper-body efforts, throwing up two sets of 10 in a series of exercises including bench press, lat pulldowns, standing shoulder press, and a number of resistance exercises with elastic bands.
While he's got the conditioning routine down, Oden's toughest training has actually been the limited one-on-one and half-court drills he's been doing. "I'm still doubting my knee in some of the basketball workouts," he says. "Some cuts I'm still a little iffy on. On-court is the hardest part for me."
[Phoenix Suns Head Strength and Conditioning Coach Erik Phillips] modifies some of Amares off-season workouts to create post-rehab lifts that focus on upper-body strength --avoiding stress on the newly repaired knee. However, Phillips includes exercises where Amare stands and balances on one leg. He says, "Single-leg exercises are great rehabilitation work for his knee. All of the muscles around the joint strengthen because they have to stabilize his bodyweight throughout the set."Go take a look at Amare's rehab program. Some of those single-leg exercises were squats (which Oden has not been doing), and this was only 10 weeks after Amare's surgery. Greg is closing in to a year past his surgery (although, presumably, the Men's Fitness article was probably written at least a month-ish ago). Shouldn't his trainers be testing his knee a little more so they can determine where he's at? Again, I'm not certified in strength and conditioning or anything. Just curious.
Not that Oden wasn't doing everything he could to get back into shape. In February, he set a team record for workouts, powering through 38 in 28 days to break former Blazer Jermaine O'Neal's mark. "Greg asked what he needed to do to bust it," Medina says. Oden's regular routine involved a mix of Pilates, pool work, cardio, and weightlifting. "The work ethic is there," added Medina.I know, I know. As a Pacers fan, the idea that Jermaine O'Neal held any kind of personal workout record shocked the hell out of me, too. But that's not the point. You always hear about teams keeping their own "advanced statistics" that aren't tracked in any official manner, like charges taken, loose balls dived for, etc. I guess some teams even keep track of how many workouts their players do. I'd really like to get my hands on some of these unofficial record books. I'd love to know, for instance, who holds the team record for workouts on, say, the Denver Nuggets. (I'm guessing it's not Allen Iverson.)
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I'm going to go with JaMarcus as the worst pick. I mean, sure, Oden didn't even play, but Russell went out and totally wet the damn bed. Whereas Oden, despite his absence, seemed to actually give his team hope for the future, which they used to overachieve in the present.
Speaking of the suns and rehabilitation, does anyone else get skeptical about teams which have great track records bringing people back from injury?
The last time I saw so many articles about great conditioning with teams was back in early 00's with Oakland/san-fransisco teams. And we all know what the true rehab program was now.
(oh, I was trying to find that reilly article about romanowski, and where'd I find the link? deadspin!
http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/bill-romanowski-workout-freak-131031.php)
Ok, shaq was probably not really injured. Grant Hill doesn't seem like he'd be easily convinced to all of a sudden take something to help rehab (unless Nash has some sort of evengical style power of persuasion over teamates and is secretely pimping drugs to everyone, those damn canucks). Same with nash, doesn't sound like a bonds type. But anytime a team has magic 'shaq and grant hill are healthy, nashs back is no problem' powers its a bit curious
SHENANIGANS on the O'Neal record!
Unless they meant 38 blunts in a month, thought that seems low.
The Blazers have been strengthening his knee, and Brandon Roy's knee, with workouts that don't actually put stress on the knee. They're doing what you think they should be doing.
As of now, Oden's knee appears fine. He's playing in 5 on 5 games and getting his wind back-- which is the last part of his rehab. Supposedly, he's doing really well.
So I dunno when this magazine article was written, but it seems really old to a Blazer fan who follows stuff by the minute because I am a loser.
Jermaine O'neal worked out a bunch and got buff as a young Blazer, after coming into the league extremely skinny. I got no clue what he did after his Blazer days, but I remember he was known as a hard worker before...
Lucky for us Blazer fans, Oden took his rehab real serious-like and looks to be coming back super duper strong.
HUZZAH!
Mortimer
Russell is who I'd go with too, as at least Oden put on great performances in college. Russell was very run of the mill and overshadowed by other SEC QB's.
So yeah, I think Mr Oden is in good hands.
In ligament reconstruction surgeries, the damage is always located in the same place (whichever ligament is hurt), and the treatment to target it is generally consistent, regardless of who had the injury. It is also well known how various ligaments respond to various types of stress.
Microfracture can be anywhere on the articular surface of the joint, depending on where the damage is. How you treat the surgery and design the rehab can vary greatly depending on where the microfracture occurs and what sort of stresses that area is subject to. I.e., very different plans are needed for the medial tibia and the lateral posterior femur.
Basically, without knowing exactly what was going on inside both Amare and Greg's knees, you really can't directly compare their rehab programs and timetables. Microfracture is still a bit more of an art than a science, which is why it's very very important to have a good surgeon and an excellent trainer, and the ability to be flexible with the recovery.
Speaking as someone who knows way too much firsthand about knee problems.
Diesel10
Funnily enough, Miles hired Amare's old trainer to rehab him from his micro(s) and didn't have the Blazers staff run his training.
Actually, to be specific, the BLAZERS hired Amare's old trainer at Miles' bequest.
I dunno which training staff is better, but I do know this (as much as a fan can "know" something): Miles multiple injuries were very very bad, and his micro one of the most severe in the history of pro-NBA micros. Z-Bo's wasn't very nice either. Oden's is the easiest, nicest micro by far because it isn't in a load bearing part of the knee, AND was a very small amount of micro-ing.
Oden's is supposedly also less severe than Amare's.
I think in Miles' case, it was a combination of a very severe injury, trying to play on it at first, then gaining a lot of weight and not sticking to the rehab plan (no other recent micro rehabbers got as fat as he did), and then the knee was in such bad shape that no amount of rehabbing made any difference.
For the past whole season, Miles was seemingly in shape and rehabbing and practicing with Blazer coaches and players... his knee was just kapoot.
Not all micros are created equal, and from all reports from the team and the doctors, Oden's micro was the best sorta' micro you could hope for; especially when compared to other recent micros.
Miles' situation bums me out, because he coulda' been such a good player. I don't blame him for not being able to come back; his knee is just gone.
Mortimer
Miles had difficulty rehabbing because his knee continued to get infected post surgery leading to more surgery. Then he ate many hamburgers and put on a ton of weight and neckbeard which lead him to the point of no return on the Blazers.
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